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Today is my last day of Tet. It was raining and very cold. And I'm so lucky to find the facebook account of a girl that I've had a crush on for 10 years. But until now I still haven't sent her friend request even though it took me a long time to find her information. I am a shy person. I first met her when she was a middle school student and I was a college student. Her image that day followed me through every day. a beautiful girl with long black hair. I'm afraid the age gap won't make her fall in love with me. The way to die without actually dying is to love someone who doesn't love you back.
 
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Today is my last day of Tet. It was raining and very cold. And I'm so lucky to find the facebook account of a little girl that I've had a crush on for 10 years. But until now I still haven't sent her friend request even though it took me a long time to find her information. I am a shy person. I first met her when she was a middle school student and I was a college student. Her image that day followed me through every day. a beautiful girl with long black hair. I'm afraid the age gap won't make her fall in love with me. The way to die without actually dying is to love someone who doesn't love you back.
Heh, "little girl", the way you worded it makes the entire thing sound even more wrong and creepier than it already is.
 
Heh, "little girl", the way you worded it makes the entire thing sound even more wrong and creepier than it already is.
sr, my fault, at first I thought it described girls from middle school and up, but I was wrong when I googled the images
 
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Hello Vozer,
I am a newbie, now I just know the topic. Thank you for first person creating the topic which helps Vozers can connect together and have opportunity using English.
Sorry if I interrupt the above people talking anything.

Glad to talk with you guys here.
 
Hello Vozer,
I am a newbie, now I just know the topic. Thank you for first person creating the topic which helps Vozers can connect together and have opportunity using English.
Sorry if I interrupt the above people talking anything.

Glad to talk with you guys here.
Hello there, we're glad to have you. Enjoy yourself.
 
Edit: Oh shit, this became a wall of text before I realized :beat_brick:

This thread have been down for a while, and maybe we can use something new around here. I think this thread hasn't been on the 1st page much because we don't have many things to talk about. So what do you guys think if we have some random topics to discuss every few days or week? It would be a great chance to practice some writing and at the same time train our mind. We can also to bring up some topics we rarely can talk about because we yet to have much in common (like love, work, trouble in life,...).
I will try to start it. This gonna be a heavy philosophical topics I think.
Freedom
Since I was young, I've been obsess with freedom. Maybe it was because I got too much attention from my family (I was the only boy in my father side). My biggest 16 year old's dream was to have a decent cottage to live in enjoy my life there. (I was affected by an Australian cooking show I watched then, but I cannot remember its name)

I think that school and college is a trap/prison and we have no choice but to follow through until the very end. I used to believed that when one grow up, one can truly be free and do whatever one want. After I had finished my college, I learnt that work is much better than school because we can always say no to a shitty job but we can rarely say no to a shitty teacher. And with that small taste of freedom I started to believe that I was one step closer to being free. But then I realized, we are all prisoned in this house of chain called society. We are bounded by every connection we made, every relationship we have. We are chained by the responsibility to ourself and to everyone around us. We are forever to stuck in this web because after all we human are a social species. And this idea really upset me because it destroyed my dream forever.

2 months ago something changed my mind: I read a fantasy book. It's about a main character who did great things, end the war and bring peace to his country. After that, he did not return, his family and friends thought he was dead, everyone else believed he was a traitor and a monster. But still he refused to be acknowledged, he refuse to claim his good deed. The reason was that he had the same thought as me. He was too tired of the burden so called responsibility we all must bear. So he take that chance to start a new life in a distant place in a small farm with his dog (it's just like my dream). And he believed that he was happy but sadly in the end he could not truly be content, because now he have no friends, no family, nor any familiar face.

This really make me think. Perhaps we can never be free because to be free is to cut ourself loose from the human social. The ultimate price of that freedom is our happiness and it is too much for any of us to sacrifice. I start to believe that I have to accept that true freedom cannot be achieve and I must find a balance points for my freedom and my social life.

So what do you guys think of freedom? How much freedom do you guys think is enough for us to be happy and where can we draw the line? I would love to hear you guy's thought in this discussion.
 
Edit: Oh shit, this became a wall of text before I realized :beat_brick:

This thread have been down for a while, and maybe we can use something new around here. I think this thread hasn't been on the 1st page much because we don't have many things to talk about. So what do you guys think if we have some random topics to discuss every few days or week? It would be a great chance to practice some writing and at the same time train our mind. We can also to bring up some topics we rarely can talk about because we yet to have much in common (like love, work, trouble in life,...).
I will try to start it. This gonna be a heavy philosophical topics I think.
Freedom
Since I was young, I've been obsess with freedom. Maybe it was because I got too much attention from my family (I was the only boy in my father side). My biggest 16 year old's dream was to have a decent cottage to live in enjoy my life there. (I was affected by an Australian cooking show I watched then, but I cannot remember its name)

I think that school and college is a trap/prison and we have no choice but to follow through until the very end. I used to believed that when one grow up, one can truly be free and do whatever one want. After I had finished my college, I learnt that work is much better than school because we can always say no to a shitty job but we can rarely say no to a shitty teacher. And with that small taste of freedom I started to believe that I was one step closer to being free. But then I realized, we are all prisoned in this house of chain called society. We are bounded by every connection we made, every relationship we have. We are chained by the responsibility to ourself and to everyone around us. We are forever to stuck in this web because after all we human are a social species. And this idea really upset me because it destroyed my dream forever.

2 months ago something changed my mind: I read a fantasy book. It's about a main character who did great things, end the war and bring peace to his country. After that, he did not return, his family and friends thought he was dead, everyone else believed he was a traitor and a monster. But still he refused to be acknowledged, he refuse to claim his good deed. The reason was that he had the same thought as me. He was too tired of the burden so called responsibility we all must bear. So he take that chance to start a new life in a distant place in a small farm with his dog (it's just like my dream). And he believed that he was happy but sadly in the end he could not truly be content, because now he have no friends, no family, nor any familiar face.

This really make me think. Perhaps we can never be free because to be free is to cut ourself loose from the human social. The ultimate price of that freedom is our happiness and it is too much for any of us to sacrifice. I start to believe that I have to accept that true freedom cannot be achieve and I must find a balance points for my freedom and my social life.

So what do you guys think of freedom? How much freedom do you guys think is enough for us to be happy and where can we draw the line? I would love to hear you guy's thought in this discussion.
I think I had the same mindset as you when I was a child, but it really changed when I read The Godfather. The most impressive quote in the novel is "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man". What I learned from Vito Corleone is family responsibility. He takes care of all his family members with all his care. He lives meaningfully, he dies in family happiness. I want to be a real man, take care of my family, but I realize I'm a poor man, you can't do that without money. I think one must become a rich person before becoming a real man. Dreaming of a free person is a way to escape from it all. ps: It's raining heavily and the temperature is 8 degrees C
 
I think I had the same mindset as you when I was a child, but it really changed when I read The Godfather. The most impressive quote in the novel is "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man". What I learned from Vito Corleone is family responsibility. He takes care of all his family members with all his care. He lives meaningfully, he dies in family happiness. I want to be a real man, take care of my family, but I realize I'm a poor man, you can't do that without money. I think one must become a rich person before becoming a real man. Dreaming of a free person is a way to escape from it all. ps: It's raining heavily and the temperature is 8 degrees C
I was thinking like this but family can’t wait for my success (become a rich man). I’m still poor now and our relationship is not too good. It’s sad.
 
I'm lucky that I still have a good relationship with my family but the success stories on social media, around put pressure on me day by day. I am only afraid that one day my parents will fall ill and I am helpless. I haven't had a happy moment in a long time. At that time, I just wish I could go back to my school days
 
I think I had the same mindset as you when I was a child, but it really changed when I read The Godfather. The most impressive quote in the novel is "A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man". What I learned from Vito Corleone is family responsibility. He takes care of all his family members with all his care. He lives meaningfully, he dies in family happiness.
Great point there. It's also one of my fav quote from Godfather.
I want to be a real man, take care of my family, but I realize I'm a poor man, you can't do that without money. I think one must become a rich person before becoming a real man. Dreaming of a free person is a way to escape from it all. ps: It's raining heavily and the temperature is 8 degrees C
I was thinking like this but family can’t wait for my success (become a rich man). I’m still poor now and our relationship is not too good. It’s sad.
It's really sad to see my parents getting old. I know it's inevitable but still it sadden me. When I was small, I believed they can do anything, but now my parents even have hard time doing what they love because they worked so hard they now have so many troubles with their back. And for what did they work so hard? It was for my future after all. Thinking about this break my heart, it feels like a debt that I can never repay.
The dream I used to have tempt me still. But the responsibility for my family chain me back, perhaps all these chains, all these responsibility are what make us human.

After reading you guys' comments, I think that everyone of us are under so much pressure to become success. All the news, all the story on the social media make us feel inferior. But what is success? and how much is enough? what is a chance for one to become one in those stories? 5 in 100? 1 in 100? or 1 in 1000? Has any of those that "success" actually feels that they are success and stop looking at other "success" people?
I know a guys that used to make 100 billion vnđ in 2 years (yeah, you can call me a bluff if you want), but he still not satisfied with what he had and strive for more. Now he doesn't make that much money anymore, he slowed down, looked back and say "you know what? This actually not so bad, I can live with it". He's now one of most successful people I know because he's happy with what he have (and still damn rich too, and making few billions a year).
My point is that, we cannot always look up to those success stories and put pressure on ourself. To me, to be success is to make enough money and saving to stop worrying about everyday needs (food, family, education, sickness,...) and know when to be satisfied with what I have.
 
So what do you guys think of freedom? How much freedom do you guys think is enough for us to be happy and where can we draw the line? I would love to hear you guy's thought in this discussion.

Being financially independent to me is basically being free. I mean, in this day and age, nobody can be completely free, unless they're rich as ****.

I just hope that one day, I can live my own life with my partner somewhere nice and won't have to worry about anything money related. Seriously speaking, money can literally fix most, if not all, of my problems and bring me happiness so **** those people who say it doesn't. Yes, I'm a material boy and what about it:sure:
I wish I could tell my mom that she'll never get a DIL from this son of hers so good luck booking that wedding she speaks of. **** responsibility.

Also, off topic but what are the requirements to become a senior member?
 
first, you must link your voz account with google account, second, you must have a profile picture for voz account. Finally, let's wait for a bit of luck
I did both of those things days ago and my account is almost six months old. When can I get to be a senior member? I've got the whole world to see...
 
Edit: Oh shit, this became a wall of text before I realized :beat_brick:

This thread have been down for a while, and maybe we can use something new around here. I think this thread hasn't been on the 1st page much because we don't have many things to talk about. So what do you guys think if we have some random topics to discuss every few days or week? It would be a great chance to practice some writing and at the same time train our mind. We can also to bring up some topics we rarely can talk about because we yet to have much in common (like love, work, trouble in life,...).
I will try to start it. This gonna be a heavy philosophical topics I think.
Freedom
Since I was young, I've been obsess with freedom. Maybe it was because I got too much attention from my family (I was the only boy in my father side). My biggest 16 year old's dream was to have a decent cottage to live in enjoy my life there. (I was affected by an Australian cooking show I watched then, but I cannot remember its name)

I think that school and college is a trap/prison and we have no choice but to follow through until the very end. I used to believed that when one grow up, one can truly be free and do whatever one want. After I had finished my college, I learnt that work is much better than school because we can always say no to a shitty job but we can rarely say no to a shitty teacher. And with that small taste of freedom I started to believe that I was one step closer to being free. But then I realized, we are all prisoned in this house of chain called society. We are bounded by every connection we made, every relationship we have. We are chained by the responsibility to ourself and to everyone around us. We are forever to stuck in this web because after all we human are a social species. And this idea really upset me because it destroyed my dream forever.

2 months ago something changed my mind: I read a fantasy book. It's about a main character who did great things, end the war and bring peace to his country. After that, he did not return, his family and friends thought he was dead, everyone else believed he was a traitor and a monster. But still he refused to be acknowledged, he refuse to claim his good deed. The reason was that he had the same thought as me. He was too tired of the burden so called responsibility we all must bear. So he take that chance to start a new life in a distant place in a small farm with his dog (it's just like my dream). And he believed that he was happy but sadly in the end he could not truly be content, because now he have no friends, no family, nor any familiar face.

This really make me think. Perhaps we can never be free because to be free is to cut ourself loose from the human social. The ultimate price of that freedom is our happiness and it is too much for any of us to sacrifice. I start to believe that I have to accept that true freedom cannot be achieve and I must find a balance points for my freedom and my social life.

So what do you guys think of freedom? How much freedom do you guys think is enough for us to be happy and where can we draw the line? I would love to hear you guy's thought in this discussion.
I know right, it's kinda a love-hate relationship, we thought we could sail every ocean, see every corner of the world, live the life we ever desired.

But in the end, we have nothing, not a single grain of hope and joy, and noone was there by our sides upon our own departure from the world of the living.

I reckon our attitude towards things is ever changing, constantly maneuvering from one point of view to another. Therefore, I could only dream to live the best life that I could, afford myself to make mistakes that I can practically benefit from.
 
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