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Mr. Maresal_eisen · 28/11/21

Good morning Voz, Sunday is best day.

Pax · 29/11/21

gaconkute đã nói:
tôi muốn dâng hiến cả đời tôi cho bạn gái tôi vì cô ta đã giúp đỡ tôi rất nhiều

These are the structures. You could use:

I’d like to dedicate myself to loving my girlfriend who have done a lot of things for me.

chuamuoncogau · 29/11/21

Hey! Are you Eiffel, cuz I fall for you :smile:

gaconkute · 1/12/21

Can anyone help me fix my sentence: "My old girlfriend disposal me from her hearts", disposal means : "loại bỏ" in vietnamese

dd721411 · 1/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
Can anyone help me fix my sentence: "My old girlfriend disposal me from her hearts", disposal means : "loại bỏ" in vietnamese

Can you please explain your idea in Vietnamese?

gaconkute · 1/12/21

dd721411 đã nói:
Can you please explain your idea in Vietnamese?

bạn gái cũ vứt bỏ tôi khỏi trái tim cô ta

Kurodell · 1/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
bạn gái cũ vứt bỏ tôi khỏi trái tim cô ta

My ex-girlfriend erased me from her heart

milet_ · 1/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
Can anyone help me fix my sentence: "My old girlfriend disposal me from her hearts", disposal means : "loại bỏ" in vietnamese

"disposal" is a noun, you must use a verb there

gaconkute · 1/12/21

milet_ đã nói:
"disposal" is a noun, you must use a verb there

can i replace with "dispose"

milet_ · 1/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
can i replace with "dispose"

like the post before was said, you can use erase. if you want to use "dispose", "dispose of" is correct. because "dispose" itself stand lonely just mean to arrange something. but here you want to get rid of it.

whitemask · 2/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
can i replace with "dispose"

I don't know how to make it in academic writing style, but in daily conversation, "dump" can be used in this case. You can just simply say "She dumped me".

EinUchiha · 2/12/21

whitemask đã nói:
I don't know how to make it in academic writing style, but in daily conversation, "dump" can be used in this case. You can just simply say "She dumped me".

Well "She dumped him" and "She erased him from her heart and threw him out of her mind" are different if we are going deep into it. We cannot be sure here. If she love him but he's a fucking ass so she has to dump him then she still keep him in her heart right?

HieuNibba91 · 2/12/21

gaconkute đã nói:
Can anyone help me fix my sentence: "My old girlfriend disposal me from her hearts", disposal means : "loại bỏ" in vietnamese

disposed is like throwing away garbage, not a person.

ntyanh · 2/12/21

i want to become english writer . what should i do now

DrPrank · 2/12/21

whitemask đã nói:
No, man. Dump is a strong word and it means all that.

The two interpretations of the original sentence are simply incomparable.
To dump someone is to simply stop being in a relationship with them. In other words, breaking up. In reality, sometimes it is not known whether either or both parties have managed to completely sever their connection with one another. That is to say, you can dump someone while still being love with them. You can certainly continue to exist in their heart after the fact.
The original comment asked for the translation of a sentence which is much more emotional and poetic than you've given credit for. It emphasizes that the girl no longer has any attachment to the guy in any way whatsoever anymore.
So no, it doesn't mean all that, at least not explicitly anyway. Going by your version of the translation, you're basically dumbing it down too hard, thus forcing the meaning to be lost in translation.

EinUchiha · 2/12/21

whitemask đã nói:
As I mentioned, I don't know that in academic writing style, but that is very common in daily conversation.
Do you know what is used with "dump"? Garbage! And no one wants to keep garbage in mind or heart, right? That means throw away without hesitate.
It depends on your point of view, but for me, that's a natural way to say it in English. Some sentences were recommended but those are a little weird to me. It's kind of translating word by word from Vietnamese to English.

I don't know man, but I dont think this is about POV.
Beside I believe "Dump" is same as "Đá" in VN. A can dump B but that doesnot mean A doesnot care about B anymore.

ChipAudi · 2/12/21

hello

DrPrank · 2/12/21

whitemask đã nói:
Well, you use Cam dictionary but you missed its first (primary) meaning: get rid of = nothing remain.
And yes, in Vietnamese, does anyone say "tao đá nó rồi nhưng trong tim tao vẫn còn thương nó", ridiculous, right? "Đá" does not have that meaning, people will use "chia tay/kết thúc" (break up/end/finish) in that case. "Dump" is even a stronger word than "Đá", I think so.

I don't know buddy. You make yourself sound convincing and reassuring to others but then you keep throwing in some in my point of view or I think so every now and then. But alas, I digress, it is not explicit as I've said.
I'm pretty certain however, that if you were to ask people in the translation industry, most likely no one would translate it the way that you did. It's over-simplified and crude.
My version would be something among the lines of "I'm no longer in her heart", which is ultimately the same as "She's erased me from her heart", as someone else has pointed out. The latter is actually pretty close to what they use in English as you can see with a simple Google search (they use remove instead of erase). Therefore, it's clearly not a word-by-word translation, the expression does exist.
*Edit: I would also like to remind you that when you keep someone in your heart, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're still in love with them. It could just be holding onto memories of what the two of you had been through, in a bittersweet way or not.

Hunter_Zero2006 · 3/12/21

ntyanh đã nói:
i want to become english writer . what should i do now

By studying grammar. Ya miss an article there. Should be "i want to become an english teacher..."

Goodluck!

Hunter_Zero2006 · 3/12/21

whitemask đã nói:
Well, you use Cam dictionary but you missed its first (primary) meaning: get rid of = nothing remain.
And yes, in Vietnamese, does anyone say "tao đá nó rồi nhưng trong tim tao vẫn còn thương nó", ridiculous, right? "Đá" does not have that meaning, people will use "chia tay/kết thúc" (break up/end/finish) in that case. "Dump" is even a stronger word than "Đá", I think so.

Can i jump in? lol

I think your assuming the word "dump" means "ending everything forever and ever". This is your opinion. In real life, ppl say dumb as a joke all the time. I dump him, but i still love him, is a common expression among native speakers. In contrast, break up/end/finish has a negative connotation attached to it. Usually when u said "i break up with you" its much more serious than "i dump you". I can't really explain it, cause its semantics, but break up/finish has a much clearer and stronger meaning than dumb. At least its like that for native speakers. Anyways, carry on lol

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