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I sent an resigning email late last night as I didnt want to talk face to face to my boss. Because I am the worst at communication and afraid that I would spit out something stupid. How idiot I am, we are grown up, we will talk anyway today, and 44 days more until my last working day 😂
It took me hours to search for an good email template and made it mine 😩
It’s been raining cats and dogs. I dont want to go to work at all. FML
 
I sent an resigning email late last night as I didnt want to talk face to face to my boss. Because I am the worst at communication and afraid that I would spit out something stupid. How idiot I am, we are grown up, we will talk anyway today, and 44 days more until my last working day 😂
It took me hours to search for an good email template and made it mine 😩
It’s been raining cats and dogs. I dont want to go to work at all. FML
This apply to almost everyone man.
I know a guy who is a salutatorian of a very famous university (which I would not name due to identity and things like that). He always studies and works very hard, so naturally I thought he
 
Of course. I've been practicing to slower my pace down, speak slowly but accurately. What's the point of rapping English if no one can understand
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Speak slowly and calmly is the way to go. Definitely no need to rap English. How did your Speaking test go?
 
Speak slowly and calmly is the way to go. Definitely no need to rap English. How did your Speaking test go?
It went pretty well
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.Got interrupted because I went off topic a few time but overall I'd say I did well.

The examiner face look a bit scary by the way
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It went pretty well
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.Got interrupted because I went off topic a few time but overall I'd say I did well.

The examiner face look a bit scary by the way
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They may look scary but maybe that’s nothing to worry about. What matters is you present yourself properly. And it’s great you feel good about it.
 
It went pretty well
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.Got interrupted because I went off topic a few time but overall I'd say I did well.

The examiner face look a bit scary by the way
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That's just how they are, so don't sweat (or should I say you probably already did during the test).
I've always had a habit of watching both real and mock IELTS speaking portion on YouTube and it stood out to me that the examiners (all certified mind you) are always rigid. It all comes down to maintaining professionalism and doing it by-the-book. They're instructed to follow their own "script" in properly carrying out the questioning and refraining from possible deviations. That means no memes, no jokes (okay maybe sprinkle a bit but very moderately), just serious business.
From the test takers' perspective, it's hardly desirable because such atmosphere is nothing short of stress inducing, as if we aren't nerve-wrecked enough already. From British Council's perspective, they are able to grade the speaking portion much more consistently and accurately, what with it being recorded and all. That's why it's called a standardized test, necessarily formulaic.
 
That's just how they are, so don't sweat (or should I say you probably already did during the test).
I've always had a habit of watching both real and mock IELTS speaking portion on YouTube and it stood out to me that the examiners (all certified mind you) are always rigid. It all comes down to maintaining professionalism and doing it by-the-book. They're instructed to follow their own "script" in properly carrying out the questioning and refraining from possible deviations. That means no memes, no jokes (okay maybe sprinkle a bit but very moderately), just serious business.
From the test takers' perspective, it's hardly desirable because such atmosphere is nothing short of stress inducing, as if we aren't nerve-wrecked enough already. From British Council's perspective, they are able to grade the speaking portion much more consistently and accurately, what with it being recorded and all. That's why it's called a standardized test, necessarily formulaic.
Probably if we happened to be examiners, we might look as strict and rigid so to speak. Just the way examiners maintain professionalism doing their job.
 
chỗ c. 1300 hiểu là khoảng năm 1300 có đúng ko mấy thím? vậy chữ c này là viết tắt của từ century đúng ko nhỉ?
MAZE
From Old English mæs, c. 1300, a noun meaning “delusion, bewilderment, confusion of thought” –from which the word amazed derives. The meaning “labyrinth, baffling network of paths or passages” is recorded from late 14th century, the notion being “something intended to confuse or mislead.”
 
Been a week since I got my IELTS result, and tbh, I could hardly take joy in it. It was 7.5 overall, an acceptable band so to say, but it was again thanks to the reading n listening score that raised the overall one. For speaking n writing, I just got 6.5 equally. I had hoped for higher bands for those 2 skills with the minimum of 7 but instead failed so hard. Honestly, it always happens to me that writing and speaking skill is what helps you stand out in terms of English profiency since the others are generally easy. Now I just feel crestfallen constantly, letting the disappointnent eat away at me. For jobs that require English to be prperly executed, high level in speaking and writing is a must. It even stands alone as another requirement besides the overall band for many positions. So basically and ironically, my 7.5 is put to no use.
 
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Been a week since I got my IELTS result, and tbh, I could hardly take joy in it. It was 7.5 overall, an acceptable band so to say (1), but it was again thanks to the reading n listening score that raised the overall one. For speaking n writing, I just got 6.5 equally. I had hoped for higher bands for those 2 skills with the minimum of 7 but instead failed so hard (2). Honestly, it always happens to me that writing and speaking skill is what helps you stand out in terms of English profiency since the others are generally easy (3). Now I just feel crestfallen constantly, letting the disappointnent eat away at me. For jobs that require English to be prperly executed (4), high level in speaking and writing is a must. It even stands alone as another requirement besides the overall band for many positions. So basically and ironically, my 7.5 is put to no use (5).
OK, let's address this part by part:
(1): "Acceptable"? Do keep in mind, the max you can score in IELTS is 9.0, at which point you are basically on par with native speakers, or even better. 7.5 is not bad at all, especially if this is your first (or second) go at IELTS. And please don't look at the secondary or high school kids as a benchmark, their moms probably had them learn English before they were even born :)
(2): You didn't really "failed" so to speak, it's just so happens the mind loves to dwell on past mistakes and makes a whole Shakespeare drama out of it, but the next next part might validate some of your concerns.
(3): I agree, this is a common phenomenon among English learners. We're always eager to listen and read, but writing/speaking seems to be a little neglected. Good at absorbing information and filter them out, but not so much at reorganizing and describing them in a different way. I suspect this happens either due to reluctance or simply a lack of opportunities to put these skills to use. After all, we ultilize our mother tongue so much more in daily life, for actual needs.
(4): What professions do you have in mind when you wrote this? As far as I can tell, this won't be a problem unless you're applying for a big multinational company, or a job that requires constant, high-level interaction with foreigners or understanding of foreign material/information in order to complete your assignments.
(5): Again, your mark is decent, and even in a worst case scenario that you couldn't apply for your dream job, you could always a) opt for a less demanding position/employer or b) take another IELTS exam. The test fee is expensive, but the chance's always there. It's not world-ending, and skills can always be honed, much like a knife can.
These are some of my thoughts about your current situation, I hope I have cleared up a few things and given you a different picture of things :big_smile:
 
Hi guy ! Learning somethings alone so boring so I found this threat too late. I'm reading some page right now and still feel boring :) Nice to weekend !
 
Been a week since I got my IELTS result, and tbh, I could hardly take joy in it. It was 7.5 overall, an acceptable band so to say, but it was again thanks to the reading n listening score that raised the overall one. For speaking n writing, I just got 6.5 equally. I had hoped for higher bands for those 2 skills with the minimum of 7 but instead failed so hard. Honestly, it always happens to me that writing and speaking skill is what helps you stand out in terms of English profiency since the others are generally easy. Now I just feel crestfallen constantly, letting the disappointnent eat away at me. For jobs that require English to be prperly executed, high level in speaking and writing is a must. It even stands alone as another requirement besides the overall band for many positions. So basically and ironically, my 7.5 is put to no use.
You are too hard on yourself man. There are still plenty of time for your English to improve. Beside 7.5 is not a low score (much better than me clearly :cry:), and even a dream for some people. Anyway, score is just score, and English, after all, is just an language, not a bloody test. If you need high IELTS score for personal and professional future improvement, you can always try again and get better result. But if you only want better score just for pride and self-proving, perhaps you should not be so hard on yourself.
 
Hi guy ! Learning somethings alone so boring so I found this threat too late. I'm reading some page right now and still feel boring :) Nice to weekend !
The main reason is we have not a topic to focus on. So everyone just pop in, say hello and get out.
Let us make it less boring by bringing up some topic. What interest you my man? We can talk about it (if I know anything about it)
 
OK, let's address this part by part:
(1): "Acceptable"? Do keep in mind, the max you can score in IELTS is 9.0, at which point you are basically on par with native speakers, or even better. 7.5 is not bad at all, especially if this is your first (or second) go at IELTS. And please don't look at the secondary or high school kids as a benchmark, their moms probably had them learn English before they were even born :)
You've got a skewed view of IELTS and really, no one can blame you for thinking that way. By all means, it is a standardized test. It's rigid, it's cumbersome, and the language used to attain the maximum band score is mostly seen in fields like literature where academic writing matters most, which is not a whole lot of coverage.
Sure, having a 9.0 band score means you have an excellent command of English as a language, but it pertains solely to IELTS's standards. IELTS itself is such a big fat cliche. You simply cannot compare to being on par with native speakers, lest better. Even native speakers do not use English in such an overly sophisticated and robotic manner. Unless you live and surround yourself with their environment, it's hardly worth a comparison.
Peeps abroad who can communicate well with the native speakers have to go above and beyond to learn outside of IELTS' standards, just so they can blend it. I've been there, and I've witnessed others.
 
You've got a skewed view of IELTS and really, no one can blame you for thinking that way. By all means, it is a standardized test. It's rigid, it's cumbersome, and the language used to attain the maximum band score is mostly seen in fields like literature where academic writing matters most, which is not a whole lot of coverage.
Sure, having a 9.0 band score means you have an excellent command of English as a language, but it pertains solely to IELTS's standards. IELTS itself is such a big fat cliche. You simply cannot compare to being on par with native speakers, lest better. Even native speakers do not use English in such an overly sophisticated and robotic manner. Unless you live and surround yourself with their environment, it's hardly worth a comparison.
Peeps abroad who can communicate well with the native speakers have to go above and beyond to learn outside of IELTS' standards, just so they can blend it. I've been there, and I've witnessed others.
After spending some time thinking about what you've said, I believe you're absolutely correct. IELTS is indeed some sort of a niche.
It just so happens that the other day, a Voz thread about the CAE certification resurfaced and I was intrigued about how the tests are carried out, especially in regards to speaking. There seems to be an emphasis on actual usage of English in daily lives, to be able to talk at length and clearly about a myriad of topics and matters, ranging from personal issues to celebrity gossips. CAE's definition of what makes a good English user is more in-depth too, even though its and IELTS' basically share the same idea. CAE also lasts for a lifetime, in stark contrast to IELTS which gets invalidated in 2 to 3 years.
As a result I'm starting to think CAE might be a superior alternative to IELTS, yet it's nowhere near as popular. Maybe because the testing regime is a bit too intimidating :ROFLMAO: The Speaking portion makes IELTS' look like a walk in the park.
 
is there anyone here can help me explain the difference between a fortune cookie or a birthday cake? I've searched on several websites but it's quite like unintelligible
 
is there anyone here can help me explain the difference between a fortune cookie or a birthday cake? I've searched on several websites but it's quite like unintelligible
as @dutchcourage said.
To push it a little further, the "Fortune cookie" usually has a piece of paper in it that suppose to "tell your fortune". But lately it mostly consist of random lines from "self-help" book like "Persistence will pay off" or something like that.
And a birthday cake is of course a cake to celebrate birthday. You will know of it as "bánh kem", and nowadays we also got Tiramisu cake, Corn cake,... as birthday cake.
 

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