thảo luận Practicing English with vOzers

Lambdadelta Umineko đã nói:

I'm not sure if this news is true or not, but according to this random vozer, Le Anh Nuoi has been dismissed from the military since the beginning of this July.

There are many threads like this in the "Random Chat" section at the moment.

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Lambdadelta Umineko đã nói:

I'm not sure if this news is true or not, but according to this random vozer, Le Anh Nuoi has been dismissed from the military since the beginning of this July.

There are many threads like this in the "Random Chat" section at the moment.

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Lambdadelta Umineko đã nói:

Hello everyone, I wish you all a good day.

Currently, I am enjoying a cup of iced black coffee at Highlands in District 3 on Nguyen Dinh Chieu Street.

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Markus_aurelius đã nói:

mấy thg trên đây cứ tối ngày fen fen riết quen rồi ra nói chuyện với người nước ngoài lại quen mồm fen thì nó cười vào trong mặt cho.

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thi.nga đã nói:

Hello everybody,
Nice to meet you.

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That's just what translation is, I think. That's all speaking is. Listening to the other and trying to see past your own biases to glimpse what they're trying to say. Showing yourself to the world, and hoping someone else understands.

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I have come to believe that in the life of every man, late or soon, there is a moment when he knows beyond whatever else he might understand, and whether he can articulate the knowledge or not, the terrifying fact that he is alone, and separate, and that he can be no other than the poor thing that is himself.

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EinUchiha đã nói:

Usually, when I finish a book, I will go to the Voz book box (f65) and throw my fav quotes and thoughts there. But since the book I just finished is about the art of translation, and this thread somehow has returned to life, I think I will throw my favourite quote here.

― Babel: An Arcane History, R.F. Kuang.
Since the early of the book, it has been stated that there can be no perfect translation, because words don't exist in relation to each other in the same way in every language. Thus translating word for word is simply inadequate.
And the quote at the end of the book, which I just put above, somehow resonates with some of my random thoughts lately. If communicating (speaking/writing) is simply the translation of the mind and the heart, then perhaps there is also no perfect translation for it.
I've come to the belief that even the best writers out there, those who are so considered wordsmiths, would not be capable of expressing their truest thoughts of the mind and the heart. I find that, on some occasions (especially when I undergo some powerful emotion), I cannot find any word or combination of words that I can use to express my thoughts and feelings like those of grief, love, sadness, happiness...
Then, if we are unable to share our truest thoughts how can we actually connect with each others? How can we truly understand others or ask for understanding from others?
And this once again reminds me of John William's take, that at the very end, everyone is actually alone and separate from everyone else.

― Augustus, John Williams.

Sorry for the rambling, somehow it always become longer than I thought it would be.

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Lambdadelta Umineko đã nói:

No need to apologize! Your thoughts and reflections are valuable, and it's great that you're taking the time to explore them. The quotes you shared from "Babel: An Arcane History" and "Augustus" are thought-provoking and touch on the challenges of communication and understanding.

Language and translation are indeed complex, and it can be difficult to fully convey our thoughts and emotions through words alone. Sometimes, the depth of our experiences and feelings exceeds the limitations of language. While it may be true that we can never fully express our truest thoughts and emotions, the act of trying to communicate and share our experiences can still foster connection and empathy. The idea that everyone is ultimately alone and separate is a philosophical concept that has been explored by many thinkers. In the end, while language may have its limitations, it remains a powerful tool for expressing ourselves and connecting with others. It's through our efforts to communicate and understand one another that we can strive to bridge the gaps of loneliness and separation.

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marshmallow đã nói:

Morning there,

Here's how my July went. Read it if you are curious enough. https://beginlifeatforty.com/2023/08/02/july-ramblings-2023/

Wish you all a productive and peaceful August!

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A day began with troubles but ended with flowers.

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marshmallow đã nói:

Morning there,

Here's how my July went. Read it if you are curious enough. https://beginlifeatforty.com/2023/08/02/july-ramblings-2023/

Wish you all a productive and peaceful August!

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Only in silence the word,
Only in dark the light,
Only in dying life:
Bright the hawk's flight
On the empty sky.

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EinUchiha đã nói:

Quite a peaceful read.
I don't know what happened on 10 July, but I really like this sentence:

Somehow, I feel like it can be the opening line for a whole short story or even short novel.

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Lambdadelta Umineko đã nói:

I also wish you a peaceful and happy August.

And I would like to express my condolences for your newly planted coneflower. Please be more careful next time.

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EinUchiha đã nói:

I've just finished my second book of the Earthsea Cycle by Ursula K. Le Guin - The Tombs of Atuan.

These books are really weird. They are written for children, thus the plot is quite decent, the character work is a little bit flat, the prose is simple yet beautiful nonetheless, the pacing is kinda odd, the books also don't contain much actions and don't really pull me in while reading. All in all, they are read almost like fairy tales. But somehow, they are so beautiful at the same time.

When I finished the first book, I was like "Wow, that truly is something." But I still had my doubt since I could not grasp what I liked about it, I just had the feeling of great satisfaction. And the second book did it again, exactly like the first book, still I have no idea why I love these books.

― Ursula K. Le Guin

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marshmallow đã nói:

As long as you enjoy reading it, that's all that matters.

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A dark hand had let go its lifelong hold upon her heart. But she did not feel joy. She put her head down in her arms and cried, and her cheeks were salt and wet. She cried for the waste of her years in bondage to a useless evil. She wept in pain, because she was free.
Freedom is a heavy load, a great and strange burden for the spirit to undertake. It is not easy. It is not a gift given, but a choice made, and the choice may be a hard one. The road goes upward towards the light; but the laden traveler may never reach the end of it.

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