toanphusv
Senior Member
I mean, Schwa is a lazy sound, like quite weak "ờ" for example /ə/
for example : Internet -> er = /ə/ -> has schwa
doctor /ˈdɒktə(r)/ -> has schwa
therefore, if a word had " /ə/ " in its pronunciation, it would have "Schwa"
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for example : Internet -> er = /ə/ -> has schwa
doctor /ˈdɒktə(r)/ -> has schwa
therefore, if a word had " /ə/ " in its pronunciation, it would have "Schwa"
dutchcourage
Member
It's not only weak but also short (1/2 the duration of a Vietnamese vowel sound). It wouldn't be a schwa sound if it's as long as a Vietnamese "ơ" sound.
toanphusv
Senior Member
as I learned your video, if a word contained "/ə/" -> It would have "schwa", right,
dutchcourage
Member
Right.
dutchcourage
Member
Yes, they are English words and are in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.
dutchcourage
Member
Don't use the dictionary for these exercises though. If you use the dictionary, then you are not practicing this important listening skill.
toanphusv
Senior Member
yes, of course, I know, but I mean when I listen a quite weak "ơ", is is credible ?
dutchcourage
Member
Well, just mark the vowels that are schwaed to the best of your ability. Some examples have been provided for you so that you can practice identifying the schwa sound.
dutchcourage
Member
For these words, the sound is always a schwa. If you pronounce "potato" as "pô-tây-tâu", then you're doing it wrong.
toanphusv
Senior Member
First exercise, 6. toquilla - No
7. glochis
8. epaulement
9. chara
10. maieutic -> ai
11. chalicothere
12. teosinte -> eo
13. siserary -> er
14. akori -> o
15. bouchal -> a
16. saccharose -> the second "A"
17. talisay -> first "A"
18. vesicate
19. semmit
20. chorepiscopus -> final "u"
21. kniphofia
22. hontish
23. malbrouck
24. ornithorhynchus -> final "u"
25. nandubay ->"u"
26. moorhen
7. glochis
8. epaulement
9. chara
10. maieutic -> ai
11. chalicothere
12. teosinte -> eo
13. siserary -> er
14. akori -> o
15. bouchal -> a
16. saccharose -> the second "A"
17. talisay -> first "A"
18. vesicate
19. semmit
20. chorepiscopus -> final "u"
21. kniphofia
22. hontish
23. malbrouck
24. ornithorhynchus -> final "u"
25. nandubay ->"u"
26. moorhen
toanphusv
Senior Member
yes, in IPA board, we dont have letter called like "ô" , you know, I still struggle to learn by heart the recipe (like a parrot, rote learning) but it is not exact, like this
| ə | Đọc là “ơ” như tiếng Việt | Ago /ə´gəʊ/ Never /´nevə(r)/ Assistance /əˈsɪstəns/ Agree /əˈɡriː/ |
| ei | Đọc là “êi” hoặc “ây” như trong tiếng Việt | Page /peidʒ/ Say /sei/ Eight /eɪt/ Rain /reɪn/ |
| əʊ, ou | Đọc là “âu” như trong tiếng Việt | Home /həʊm/ Low /ləʊ/ Load /ləʊd/ Home /həʊm/ Shoulder /ˈʃəʊldə(r)/ |
| ai | Đọc là “ai” như trong tiếng Việt | Five /faiv/ Sky /skai/ Die /daɪ/ Like /laɪk/ |
| aʊ | Đọc là “ao” như trong tiếng Việt | Flower /´flaʊə(r)/ Now /naʊ/ About /əˈbaʊt/ Sound /saʊnd/ |
| ɔi | Đọc là “ooi” như trong tiếng Việt | Boy /bɔi/ Join /dʒɔin/ Toy /tɔɪ/ Appointment /ə’pɔɪntmənt/ |
toanphusv
Senior Member
exercise 2 :
arrange -> a a
business -> e
complete -> o
continue -> o
contribute -> o
coorperation -> e
difference -> first e
directly -> i
exactly -> first e ?? Not sure
educational -> final "a"
every -> second "E"
exceptional -> final "A"
formul... -> I can hear this word
financial -> final "A"
forestracing -> I can hear this word, but I guess first "E"
arrange -> a a
business -> e
complete -> o
continue -> o
contribute -> o
coorperation -> e
difference -> first e
directly -> i
exactly -> first e ?? Not sure
educational -> final "a"
every -> second "E"
exceptional -> final "A"
formul... -> I can hear this word
financial -> final "A"
forestracing -> I can hear this word, but I guess first "E"
toanphusv
Senior Member
Hi @dutchcourage , can I depend on this table to memorize the "Vietnamese recipe"
dutchcourage
Member
For now, just focus on the schwa sound.
The schwa sound is in the first syllable of the word "potato", and you can hear that the schwa sound is much shorter than the sound of the letter a and the sound of the second letter o. The above table is missing the duration of the sound.
I can also see the problem with sounds like au, aʊ. These sounds have a hidden "w" sound at the end. That's why "flour" and "flower" are homophones (have the same pronunciation)
dutchcourage
Member
My tip for you is to learn one sound at a time. If you learn IPA sounds strategically, you'll see a significant improvement after learning ~10 sounds.
kiến thức - Học bảng IPA như thế nào (mục tiêu 6.5-7.0 Speaking IELTS)?
Do gần đây có nhiều bạn đặt câu hỏi về việc luyện bảng IPA, và một số bạn khuyên là phải học hết toàn bộ 44 âm trong bảng IPA. Mình không đồng ý với lời khuyên này. Dù bản thân mình đã đạt mức điểm 6.5 Speaking IELTS thi thật (7.0 thi thử), mình cũng vẫn chưa thể phát âm chuẩn toàn bộ 44 âm...
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You may watch Rachel's pronunciation tutorials to learn the correct way to pronounce these sounds. You may find the links to the videos here: http://185.163.125.151:5000/syllabus
toanphusv
Senior Member
Well, of course, it's the Garden Spot of the World, as Lady Elaine Fairchild would say. I remember somebody telling me, when I was a kid, what the census was. It was eleven thousand one hundred and eleven. That happened to be the day that they took the census. There were that many people. I think it now has probably tripled in size. But it's a good small town. And I went to all public schools. And I'm very glad that I was able to go through the whole school system of Latrobe through high school. I remember that's when I started to write for the newspaper. I had a column in the Latrobe Bulletin, as well as the school newspaper and that really gave me a lot of practice. I thought of that fondly when the newspaper column came up in the last two years. You know, we've been writing a column for King Features. And those things have deep roots. I guess that's, you know, I must be an emotional archeologist because I keep looking for the roots of things, particularly the roots of behavior and why I feel certain ways about certain things.
Interviewer: Can you remember what kinds of things you wrote about in this column?
Mr. Rogers: I wrote about everything that had to do with life in Latrobe High School because that was my biggest extracurricular activity. I was also editor of the yearbook my senior year. And president of the student council in my senior year in high school. Very different from my freshman year in high school. I was a very shy kid. I was the Daniel Striped Tiger of that school, I'm sure. But something happened and -- and you can never truly, completely, understand why. But there was this kid who was in our church -- his name was Jim Stumbaugh -- and he was a revered member of the class in high school. He was a basketball player, a football player. He was getting a letter in track. I mean, he was very gifted in, not only in sports, but scholastically. He was, you know, a class hero. Well, he got hurt in a football game and somebody suggested that I take his homework to him at the hospital. I said, "Me?!" Years later, we talked about it and he said, "I couldn't believe it was you walking in that room." Well, I took it and we had some conversation and I kept taking it to him and, after a while, he found out that I was more than just shy and we became friends. And, consequently, he introduced me to all of his friends, so, the last three years of high school, I was really part of the whole culture of that class and we all had a wonderful three years together.
Interviewer: Can you remember what kinds of things you wrote about in this column?
Mr. Rogers: I wrote about everything that had to do with life in Latrobe High School because that was my biggest extracurricular activity. I was also editor of the yearbook my senior year. And president of the student council in my senior year in high school. Very different from my freshman year in high school. I was a very shy kid. I was the Daniel Striped Tiger of that school, I'm sure. But something happened and -- and you can never truly, completely, understand why. But there was this kid who was in our church -- his name was Jim Stumbaugh -- and he was a revered member of the class in high school. He was a basketball player, a football player. He was getting a letter in track. I mean, he was very gifted in, not only in sports, but scholastically. He was, you know, a class hero. Well, he got hurt in a football game and somebody suggested that I take his homework to him at the hospital. I said, "Me?!" Years later, we talked about it and he said, "I couldn't believe it was you walking in that room." Well, I took it and we had some conversation and I kept taking it to him and, after a while, he found out that I was more than just shy and we became friends. And, consequently, he introduced me to all of his friends, so, the last three years of high school, I was really part of the whole culture of that class and we all had a wonderful three years together.
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toanphusv
Senior Member
Hi @dutchcourage , sorry I am late because of a heavy workload with IELTS. But I will do ur next week exercises ASAP. Other question, do u teach about "chunking", "intonation"...
dutchcourage
Member
About "chunking", I've implicitly taught that part by teaching phrases such as "in a jiffy" instead of individual words.
Intonation will definitely be a topic in the future, but you need to master the schwa sound before learning intonation.
